, and william saletan and "slate" magazine has a piece saying he is, in fact, a moderate republican at heart. what do you think about that? >> i think, on the one hand, that's true. the moderate republicans still exist, they're just democrats now. and that's why the republican party has been distilled to its extreme. second, it certainly is true that, as you've written about and broadcasted about, there's a huge cleavage in the democratic party between essentially the wall street democrats and the more progressive democrats. and that's an important issue that affected our views the first obama administration and the second, too. however, i would contend that in most of my conscious lifetime, this is the most coherent the democratic party has been. i mean, compared to the republicans. the republicans are falling part and in complete, you know, clan war. whereas, as you had the previous democratic incumbent being the most impressive advocate for this democratic incumbent. whereas the republicans can't mention the guy who was their previous incumbent. and so i think -- >> george w. >> george w.